atherton: 1642-45
atherton: from 1645-1660 was the period of parilmentarian rule
prespos: i forget, Ath, it was a while ago
prespos: 17th c
prespos: default for Aerth
subaltari: New England was being settled at the time
atherton: there was a low level of fighting in the Tidewater region of Virginia Sub
atherton: one battle involved about 300 men
prespos: what region would correspond to New England, on this map?
prespos:
prespos.freeforums.net/thread/2066/vargaardatherton: but generally it seems to have been more family feudin'
prespos: also, where would Virginia be?
prespos:
www.conceptdraw.com/How-To-Guide/picture/Geo-Map--USA.pngArchivist: new england is wildedge
Archivist: virginia is falcondia
Archivist: or heliotep
prespos: thanks Arch
Archivist: but the indians who met the pilgrims were from jarlesheim
subaltari: which map?
Archivist: which is also MA
Archivist: err, NE
Archivist: new england
Archivist: wildedge is ma
Archivist: pointer is on western MA
Archivist: maybe the top of CT
prespos: >sub: link above
prespos: brb, need to 2p
Archivist: jarlesheim is pointing at new hampshire or maine
subaltari: Nwe England is a broad region including theMassachusetts Colony
Archivist: maine was where the indians were
Archivist: RI and MA indians had all died from White man flu
Archivist: that's why Jarlesheim is in it too
atherton: RI indians got whiped out durign the King Philips war
atherton: except for a few on Martha's vinyard
Archivist: peanuts cartoon said it was all from sickness
Archivist: and something about fur trappers
atherton: read about the King Philip's war, its an interesting phase of american history
prespos: thanks guys, i am parsing all of this
Archivist: the one who came over for grass snakes
atherton: basically the result of the war was the enslavement of death of the majority of the Indian population
prespos: Martha's Vineyard --> X-Files
prespos: New England --> Providence?
atherton: although some might have fled to other regions
Archivist: pretty sure the Paxtuxet all died from the sickness
Archivist: like most Indian folk
subaltari: it's known that whites gave some indians blankets infected with smallpox on purpose
Archivist: before anyone ever met their culture
subaltari: not sure when
subaltari: but it was an early instance of biological warfare
prespos: Yes
Archivist: that's pretty minor compared to the 90% of the Native population that's thought to have died prior to meaningful White contact
atherton: the tribe in RI was mostly the wampoag and narrangansett
prespos: something about a Brit under siege
prespos: >sub: it's recorded history
subaltari: yes and no, we still have an awful burden arch
Archivist: blankets with smallpox weren't exactly a commodity
Archivist: anyone using a blanket who had smallpox would have it burned
atherton: the early plagues were accidental
prespos: i have only come across 1 reference to a smallpox blanket
Archivist: so a blanket-trojan horse would have been short term collection
prespos: /me smokes tobacco
*prespos smokes tobacco*
prespos: /me drinks hard liquour
prespos: /me lives
*prespos drinks hard liquour*
*prespos lives*
subaltari: no, they were intended as a weapon
Archivist: they were burned to prevent spread of sickness
atherton: certainly there seems to have been little to suggest that the plagues that decimated New England before the 1620's were purposeful
prespos: genocidal warfare is a fact of our history, here, ath
Archivist: it's not like they farmed them and saved them up
Archivist: it was an attack of opportunity
prespos: that said, Yes, it seems like an accident
subaltari: I'm sure it wasn't decisive, but it was significant enough to be on record
atherton: sure Pres, but generally those sort of biologial attacks occurred later
atherton: I think the idea of smallpox as a biological weapon goes back to the French Indian war of 1756-63
atherton: but I'd doubt whether it goes back much further than that
prespos: /me burns tobacco
*prespos burns tobacco*
Archivist: fought the Sioux into the 1870s
Archivist: that's when things were nasty
Archivist: and blankets were burned
prespos: Indian wars were very nasty
Archivist: and some one day could have been diverted
Archivist: but the 90% that died
Archivist: that was unintentional
prespos: note to self: Wildedge = New England
Archivist: early explorers along the shores of America saw nothing but huge bonfires
Archivist: visible for miles
subaltari: agreed
Archivist: and by the time people set ashore up there they were all gone
Archivist: and Squanto said the Pawtuxet went with them
Archivist: from the disease
Archivist: maybe that's what happened at Roanoke
Archivist: Indians started getting sick and knew who to blame
Archivist: Croatoan style
subaltari: that is one valid theory
Archivist: Jarlesheim is new england too
Archivist: present-day new england
Archivist: it's new hampshire / maine
subaltari: an epidemic can change a map
Archivist: Grandmark is Manhattan
Archivist: Falcondia is DC / Virginia
Archivist: or Suskehankla is Virginia and Falcondia is DC
Archivist: Heliotep is like North Carolina
Archivist: Maderios is Miami to the right of the arrow
Archivist: Relantl is Disney World, Orlando
prespos: thank you
prespos: can i cut-and-paste this?
Archivist: Mederios is actually sort of the Everglades
Archivist: the mysterious swamp of Florida
Archivist: sure
prespos: thanks
Archivist: with mystic swamp-pumas or whatever they are, the huge cats
Archivist: I think they're still around
Archivist: and Indians on fanboats
Archivist: the mountains going up the side of the continet are the Adirondack mountains
Archivist: they end in northern maine up jarlesheim way
Archivist: home of crazed hillbillies in real life and in the game I'd imagine
prespos: LOL
prespos: is Mogo from Maine?
Archivist: moonshine country
Archivist: what's a mogo
prespos: oh, he's a guy that hangs out here
Archivist: the hillbillie ones are more in the actual mountain-painted area
prespos: pretty sure Mogo is from Maine
Archivist: mighty Khatadin finishes the adirondacks in Maine
Archivist: they go almost all the way up with the forest
prespos: Relantl is a Atlantan colony (a colony of Atlantis)
subaltari: Mogo: AC 4, move 9", HD 2+1
prespos: hehe
subaltari: attack 1-6/1-6 or by weapon type
Archivist: should have them have a big golf ball in their cities
Archivist: somewhere there
Archivist: like EPCOT
subaltari: Mogo saves at +2 vs fear and paralysis
subaltari: done
atherton: Sub, I was looking for this battler earlier
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Severnsubaltari: ath: yes
prespos: 1655
prespos: 17th c. is the default year for Aerth
subaltari: waht a crazy setting
prespos: i love it
prespos:
prespos.freeforums.net/board/20/aerthsubaltari: going idle, back later
prespos: ok