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Skills (Theory) Jan 18, 2016 9:43:15 GMT

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Each skill costs 1 point.

CAVALIER: 3/2, 1/1 at 3rd, 5th, 7th, 10th, etc.
Paladin: 3/2, 1/1 at 3rd, 5th, 7th, 10th, etc.

CLERIC: 2/3, 1/1 at 5th, 8th, 11th, etc.
Druid: 2/3, 1/1 at 6th, 11th, etc.

FIGHTER: 4/2, 1/1 at 4th, 7th, 10th, etc.
Barbarian: 6/3, 1/1 at 3rd, 5th, 7th, 10th, etc.
Ranger: 3/2, 1/1 at 4th, 7th, 10th, etc.

MAGIC-USER: 1/3, 1/2 at 6th, 12th, etc.
Illusionist: 1/3, 1/2 at 6th, 12th, etc.

THIEF: 2/3, 1/1 at 5th, 8th, 11th, etc.
Acrobat: 2/3, 1/1 at 5th, 8th, 11th, etc.
Assassin: 3/2, 1/1 at 5th, 8th, 11th, etc.

MONK: 1/1, 1/1 at 3rd, 5th, 7th, 10th, etc.

BARD: As other classes, 1/1 at 5th, 8th, 11th, etc.

* The secondary skill is used, but does not count as a proficiency.
* Intelligence can be used for languages or non-weapon proficiencies:
8-9 = 1
10-11 = 2
12-13 = 3
14-15 = 4
16 = 5
17 = 6
18 = 7

Alertness
Agriculture (farmer)
Ancient History
Animal Handling
Animal Lore
Animal Training
Appraising
Artistic Ability
Blind-fighting
Brewing
Carpentry
Charioteering
Cobbling
Cooking
Dancing
Direction Sense
Disguise
Endurance
Engineering
Etiquette
Fire-building
Fishing
Forgery
Gaming
Gem-Cutting
Healing
Herbalism
Juggling
Language, Ancient
Languages, Modern
Leatherworking
Local History
Mining
Mountaineering
Musical Instrument
Pottery
Reading Lips
Reading/Writing
Religion
Riding, Airborne
Riding, Land-Based
Rope Use
Running
Seamstress/Tailor
Set Snares
Singing
Spellcraft
Stonemasonry
Survival
Swimming
Tightrope Walking
Tracking
Tumbling
Ventriloquism
Weather Sense
Weaving

APPENDIX I: NEW CLASSES
Smith
Astrologer
Archer
Hunter
Mariner

APPENDIX II: 2E PROFICENCY DATA
WP
Warrior 4 / 3
Wizard 1 / 6
Priest 2 / 4
Rogue 2 / 4

NWP
Warrior 3 / 3
Wizard 4 / 3
Priest 4 / 3
Rogue 3 / 4

Last Edit: Jan 18, 2016 17:50:12 GMT by Admin

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Malcadon Moderator Posts: 951	Skills (Theory) Jan 19, 2016 10:15:28 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Malcadon on Jan 19, 2016 10:15:28 GMT *"FIGHTER: 4/2, 1/1 at 4th, 7th, 10th, etc."* So, a Fighter starts with "4/2" and gets "1/1" every so many levels? Can you explain the numbers to me, please?
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Skills (Theory) Jan 19, 2016 12:33:24 GMT

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Jan 19, 2016 10:15:28 GMT Malcadon said:

"FIGHTER: 4/2, 1/1 at 4th, 7th, 10th, etc."

So, a Fighter starts with "4/2" and gets "1/1" every so many levels? Can you explain the numbers to me, please?

Sure, no problem.

The numbers are in the format of: weapon/non-weapon.

So, the fighter in the above example would begin with 4 weapon proficiencies, and, 2 non-weapon proficiencies.
Upon reaching 4th level, our fighter gains 1 weapon proficiency, and, 1 non-weapon proficiency.
Upon reaching 7th level, our fighter gains 1 weapon proficiency, and, 1 non-weapon proficiency.
Upon reaching 10th level, our fighter gains 1 weapon proficiency, and, 1 non-weapon proficiency.
etc.

I generally did not provide data for levels beyond the 10th, as I can't see my players getting there anytime soon.

Everything in that rough draft is from the Wilderness Survival Guide and the 2nd Edition Player's Handbook.
Basically, I am trying to work out a simplified and unified proficiency system for AD&D (we play a mix of 1e and 2e).

Pres

PS.
Note that with regard to the numbers, there are small differences between 1e and 2e. The reason that I went with the 1e numbers was to retain compatibility with Barna10's excellent character generator, here:
www.barnadesigns.com/adnd/adnd.html

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Skills (Theory) Jan 19, 2016 13:06:28 GMT

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Post by Malcadon on Jan 19, 2016 13:06:28 GMT

Thanks.

When I saw "x/x", I did not know if they were two things, or a fraction of something. (My head is still hazy form this illness.)

I never liked how "Skills" in second edition AD&D was called "Non-Weapon Proficiencies." They should have had "Weapon Proficiencies" alongside "Skills", and called them such. And yes, they were chunky as shit!

P.S. If you're looking for a 2e system that did NWPs right, look up the rules to a major Ravenloft rule/setting supplement called Masque of the Red Death and Other Tales. For example, they change the Thief class to the Tradesman, that is defused of Thieving Abilities in order focus on open-ended NWPs and Specialty Skills. (Thieving Abilities are folded into NWPs.)

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